Günstige Oldtimer ...

[Races]

... im Internet ???

Hallo Zusammen,

ich will Euch mal an ein paar merkwürdigen Sachen teilhaben lassen, mit welchen ich mich in den letzten Wochen nebenbei beschäftigt habe. Mein Vater sucht noch ein schönes altes Auto für sich und so suchen wir regelmäßig das Netz ab und zwar auch auf Seiten wie z. B. mobile.de. Wenn
man eindringlich sucht findet man ab und zu sehr interessante Fahrzeuge für Spottpreise ( Bruchteile des eigentlichen Wertes ). Meistens sind in diesen Angeboten hübsche Bilder von nahezu perfekten Fahrzeugen eingestellt und die derzeitigen Besitzer nur mit Namen, PLZ u. Ort ( meißt irgendein Kaff in der Pampa ) genannt. Man muß also die Kontaktoption über das Angebotsformular nutzen um mit dem Verkäufer in Verhandlung treten zu können. Ich habe dies 2x getan. 1x ging es um einen 1969´er Porsche 911T, Farbe weiß, US-Ausführung, Preis um die 8.000,- € und 1x war es ein schwarzer MGB aus 1965 für ca. für um die 6.000,- €. Nach einigem hin- und hergemaile Erhalt der gleichen Bilder wie in den Angeboten sowieso schon enthalten, bekam ich irgendwann folgende Mails :

Porsche :

1st :

Hello ,

Thank you for your email and I want to apologise for my delay in replying .I will try to answer clearly to all your questions.First I want to mention that the car is located in Spain(Valencia).The car has been bought from Germany while I was working there as a programmer at a Software Company for 1 year. Now I have turned back in Spain because the working contract expired. I do not want to keep the car in Spain because the insurance taxes are very expensive.The car will be sold with all original documentation like registration certificate in Germany,TUEV (technical check) and OTHER ONE (environmental checks) is valid until 2010. It comes also with 2 original main keys.I 'm the first owner of it. I assure you the car looks and works perfectly,never being involved in any accidents or damages(the service book can confirm it).
I wait your e-mail.

Thanks!!

2nd :

Hello,

Now the car is right here in Spain Valencia and it's possible to deliver with a company because all tax is small only 230 euro. Also you have inspection periode some day's and if you like the car you will buy it.
The selling price of the car is 6.210 Euro with transport service and insurance taxes included to your place. I have found the best shipping company specifically for cars transportation and also offers protection for sellers and buyers in online transactions .I will explain how the company works.All I have to do is to leave the car in the company custody.The company will make all documents neccessary to transport the car to you,insurance and payment.After the shipping is done you have to deposit the money in the company account as a security measure.Then the shipping company will deliver the car to your place in 5 days.After you receive the car you will have 5 days inspection period for driving and testing the car.If you will be agree to keep the car you have to ask the shipping company to release the money to me.In case you don't want to keep the car the shipping company will return your money to you and also the car to me with my expense.
This is the best way to send you the car because you will have 5 days to inspect the car and drive before you decide on the purchase.
I wait your e-mail.

Thanks!!

3rd :

Hi,

The Name of the Shipping Company is Viage Correos Company.
If you are agree with my deal method and if you want buy my car please send me your full name and address and i will start the shipping immediately Monday morning.
Monday morning i will go to the shipping company to delivered the car in your custody,after that the shipping company will contact you with the details for the payment and shipping. After you receive this details you must go to your bank and make the payment,after payment made you must send the scanned paper of the payment to the shipping company. They will check the payment and if it is all right the shipping company will start the delivery immediately and you will receive the car in max 5 days directly at your home. You have 5 days for inspection the car , you in this 5 days you can go to the service to check the all car. If you not agree with the car the shipping company will return you the money immediately in hand and me return the car and i will support the all costs, you will not lose nothing. I wait your decision.

Thanks!!

MGB :

1st :

Hello,

Sorry for this late response but i was very, very bussy with my work !
Tell me, you are still interested in my MG ? If yes the car it is still available and it has 155.600 km, year 07/1965 and the price is 5.960 Euros (negotiable), the tehnical revision has been made several weeks ago .
Please mail me back with your full name and address, and if you have something to ask me i will be glad to answer you. And something important for me, if you are DEALER please don't contact me because i will not sell you the car. Thank you for your understanding and i hope to have a good cooperation together !!!

Wait your e-mail!Thanks
Bonaventure Luther
PS: Wenn Sie möchten, dass wir auch weiterhin unsere Konversation in Deutsch oder Französisch, wenn Sie wissen besser!
Si vous voulez nous pouvons continuer notre conversation en allemand ou en français si vous le savez mieux!

2nd :

Hello again

Thanks for your reply! The car is in very good running condition, no damages, accidents or scratches no need repairs of course, is in perfect condition inside and outside as well the condition of the engine is perfect. I never smoke in it and i want to sell it to a serious person who will take very good care of the car.

First i must tell you that I am located in Tampere, Finland.. I hope this in not a problem! I have used the car in Germany (It still has german papers) but here the taxes are verry big so i can't register it!! I have worked for my company in Germany but now i am back home! I have tried to sell it here but nobody wanted it! Someone adviced me to sell it on the continent because it still has german papers and will be easier!

If you want the car you can come here to take it or, if you can't come I would like to use a shipping company for this deal. The process is very easy. This company will handle the delivery of the car and also they will handle all the registration papers. If we will use it you will have 5 days for testing the car before deciding to buy it. They will also give me the payment after you will decide to keep the car.

I will pay the delivery of the car! The delivery time will be arround 3-4 days and the car will be delivered at your home address. In this time you will receive the tracking number of the transaction so you can use it to check the status on the company website. If you want, the company will help you with all the registration papers in your country!

Please e-mail me with your decision and your full name and address!! Please don't contact me if you do not have the money for the car or if you only e-mail for simple curiosity!

Best regards

Wenn man dann eindringlicher nach weiteren Details über die Transportfirmen ( genaue Anschrift, Telefonnummern etc. ) und den Standort fragt bzw. wenn man trotz der vermeintlichen Entfernung zum Fahrzeug trotzdem einen Besichtigungstermin vereinbaren will bekommt man plötzlich überhaupt keine Antwort mehr. Die Autos sind meistens nach 24 Stunden auch wieder aus den Angebotsseiten von mobile.de verschwunden.

als was haltet Ihr davon ? Hier versucht doch einer richtig Kohle zu machen oder ? Ist das nicht schon fähig als Betrugsversuch angezeigt zu werden ???

Gruß

Lars

[Andi]

Das kann man immer wieder in diversen Autozeitschriften lesen..........
und zwar als eindringliche Warnung!Im Fernsehen war das ganze auch schon.

[Juergen Schroeder]

Hi Races,

das ist eine bekannte Masche. Es geht darum, daß Du einen Geldbetrag hinterlegst. Hast Du das getan, ist das Geld weg und das Auto wirst Du nie sehen... Die Autos sind also nur "Köder" um dir das Geld aus dem Kreuz zu leiern. Schlag doch einfach mal vor das Auto abzuholen und bar zu bezahlen (so weit is Valencia ja nicht weg) aber dann Du wirst wahrscheinlich nie wieder eine Mail von dem Verkäufer erhalten. Das gleiche dürfte der Fall sein, wenn Du vorschlägst, das Geld bei einem deutschen Anwalt/Treuhänder zu hinterlegen.
Ein Arbeitskollege hatte das gleiche, er wollte sich ein Motorrad kaufen. Immer das gleiche: Das Angebot war extrem günstig und verlockend, und aus irgendeinem Grund was das Fahrzeug dann im Ausland, usw....
Komischerweise läßt sich bei den meisten Money Transfer Banken nicht feststellen, wer genau das Geld bekommen hat !!
!! FINGER WEG !!

Hier noch ein Link:
http://www.sicher-autokauf.de/

Gruß,
Jürgen

[MKIII]

Diese Mail bekam ich im Oktober 2008.
Vorher bekam ich schonmal (auch von diesem Robert Kokou) mehrere solche Mails.
Eine Kopie seines Ausweises war auch anghängt

From Robert KOKOU
Rue de Eteobi 12 Etoil Ruse
B.P 1230 Mail Bag
Cotonou Benin
Tel: (229) 97 42 66 13

Hello Dear XXXXX
I'm Robert Kokou ,personal lawyer to one Mr.Wolfgang XXXX,a national of your country who used to work as a government contractor in Cotonou the Republic of Benin Africa,here in after shall be Referred to as My Client, Mr. Wolfgang was involve in Dec. 25 , 2003, chartered Boeing 727 jet bound for beirut, Lebanon, that crashed after hitting a building on takeoff, killing at least 140 people including Mr. Wolfgang and his entire family as the where heading to Beirut for Holidays. After his death, I discovered a contract file that was Executed by his company (Wolfgang Construction Company S.A ), this contract was executed between April 2002 to November 2003, the contract worth heavy amount of money, more than 10 Mln U . S .D was awarded to Wolfgang Construction Company by the Benin Ministry of Public Works and Transport, for the construction of Cotonou/Porto-Novo express road, after due investigation through the file, I discovered that
Mr.Wolfgang completed the contract on November 2003 and was not paid before his sudden death,

Since then I have made several enquiries to your embassy to locate any of my clients extended relatives but all efforts was just in vain.
After these several unsuccessful attempts, I decided to track His last name over the Internet, to locate any anybody with his family hence I contacted you. I have contacted you to assist in Repatriating this money from the Benin Ministry of Works and Transport; before they cancel the dept as unclaimed bill.

As the lawyer to Mr. Wolfgang, I received a letter from the Ministry , they want me to provide the relative of Mr.Wolfgang or have the account confiscated. Since I have been unsuccessful in Locating the relatives for over three years, I have the privilage to present any one of my choice so fas as the person have the same surname with the deceased.

Now I seek your consent to present you as a relative of Mr. Wolfgang since you have The same last name so that the proceeds of this fund valued at more than 10 Mln can be paid to you and then you and me can Share the money 60% to me and 40% to you.

I have in my possition all the legal contract documents that can be used to back up any claim we may make .All I require is your honest cooperation to enable us seeing this Deal through.

I guarantee that this will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that will protect you from any breach of the law, but you must also agree not to disclose or pass any information related to this business to any body for security reason and to avoid eye brow ,and the way we are going to achieve this is I will need the following information from you,Your Full Name and Address,Your Age, Occupation and Position,Your Telephone Mobile and Fax Number for Communication purpose. you can call me at

(229) 97 42 66 13
I await your Call and reply ASAP

Best Regards
Robert Kokou

Antwort
HiRobert,
??? what do you mean with
"and then you and me can Share the money 60% to me and 40% to you."

Wy should I give you 60% of the money?

I am the univeral heir and I tell you how much I will give you for your time and effort, OK?

Now, what summ will make you happy? 60% is much out of my oppinion, so make me an fair offer or we will not come together.

NS

From Robert KOKOU
Dear Norbert XXXXX
I welcome your quick response, understand that you might find it somehow difficult to believe you can claim this kind of contract sum, but you have to understand my previous explanation that this is going to be a business deal, I have agreement with the Director of the Ministry of Works and Transport that we can present you before the honorable Director of debt reconciliation department of the ministry as the deceased next of kin, and please note this is a business deal between me and you and you must keep it confidential and private and please don't disclose any information about this transaction to anybody.
Firstly, I will like you to understand that this is a Business deal /transaction; it's real and not risky.

I have my reputation and office positions to maintain. If there is any risk involved in this transaction can rightly assure you that I will not attempt to carry it out. I'm a very reasonable and responsible person,
This transactions ready successful for it has been well planned and masterminded by me, and be rest assured that you will gain immensely from the conclusion of this mutually benefiting transaction. I’m respectable family man, with kids to bring up, I earn little salaries to my office position. The funds from this transaction will ensure that I enjoy good Retirement when I retire from legal service and enable me provide adequately for my wife's and kids.

I'm trusting you with faith and only with faith that you be a good person who will not want to disappear when this fund into your account.

The deceased does not have any other relative left in this world, I tried to find one by visiting your country in 2004 but all effort was in vain, but I cannot also watch the Ministry seize this money as unclaimed fund, that is Why have to make this proposal to you, as legal practitioner I cannot in any way involve you or my self in anything illegal, all procedure sand steps must be legal that's the most important thing to me,
The Ministry of Works and Transport is due to pay off monies owed to foreign and local contractors this year.

I Have received ultimatum of only 21(twenty one) working days to present the deceased heir or have the dept cancel assume claimed fund, another question is when dept is cancel by the Ministry, what happens to the money, the answer is this, 70% of the total sum goes into government treasury account at the apex government Bank, while30%ofthis fund is shared amongst the Board of the Ministry. You will agree with me that leaving this fund to disappear just like a wind is senseless when I have all the facilities required to claim this fund through your help.

The Chairman of the Contract Awarding committee of the Ministry have already assured me of his maximum cooperation in this matter as long as you can be able to provide supporting evidence to your claim, the supporting evidence is just some documents related to this contractor some evidence of death, all this is available but I can not precise which one will be required by the Ministry, but I’m here to provide any documents or information on demand by the Ministry, for your convenient hereby attach the Letter Received from the Ministry just last month for your view.

Note clearly that this transaction has been well planned and masterminded by me. I have followed all the required official contract award/ payment procedures, and all documents to facilitate the smooth conclusion of this transaction are legitimate and officially in order. There is no problem, this contract is LEGAL. THIS TRANSACTION IS A BUSINESS DEAL BETWEEN ME AND YOU, BUT IT IS LEGITIMATE AND GENUINE TO THE AUTHORITIES. I want to assure you that you have nothing to fear about, your main priority should be to give me your total co-operation, and follow my advice /instruction. You should consider this transactions already successful & concluded.

This transaction is for real, its no Childs play. As the private and personal attorney to the deceased, I hereby solicit strongly for your total co-operation and confidentiality, in this transaction and also hope that you will not betray the confidence that I have reposed on you, for you will benefit immensely from this transaction.

Please send along the following details so that I can conclude this transaction:
Your full Address:
Your Private Telephone Number
A little other information about your self if you wish.
Your Age

As soon as I receive this information's and you follow all my advice and directives, I will the prepare letters of claim and send to the MINISTRY OF WORKS AND TRANSPORT on your behalf and also send you copy of the letters of claim.

I sincerely assure you that this transaction will be concluded by next week and the total contract fund swill be safely in your Bank Account, and I will then travel down to your country for sharing/ disbursement according to the agreed percentage.

This transaction is real, its not child’s play, you have to take us into confidence, give me your total co-operation and see for yourself how things work out positively. At the conclusion of this transaction when the funds have been successfully transferred into your bank account.

Best Regards to you and your family.

Robert KOKOU
Tel +229 97 42 66 13

Antwort
Again,
please answer my question in an for me satisfactory offer

HiRobert,
??? what do you mean with
"and then you and me can Share the money 60% to me and 40% to you."

Wy should I give you 60% of the money?

I am the univeral heir and I tell you how much I will give you for your time and effort, OK?

Now, what summ will make you happy? 60% is much out of my oppinion, so make me an fair offer or we will not come together.

NS

From Robert KOKOU
Please send the folowilling informetion to me so we can sart up this deal
the money will not be the problem,
let say we can Share the money 55% to me and 45% to you

Robert

Antwort
Hi Robert,
I am verry upset "Share the money 55% to me and 45% to you
"

I think you want to screw me up!!

If I dont get more than 75% I will make that bussines with your Boss.
So come on and give me an faithfull offer.

Norbert

From Robert KOKOU
Dear Nobert
That is the condition , or you forget about it

Dossou

Antwort
Hi Robert, Hi Dossou,
do you know MR. KREAZPACK RICHARDS??

I wont at least 80% of that summ, if not you will get contact to MR. KREAZPACK RICHARDS.

best regards
Norbert

MR. KREAZPACK RICHARDS. war der von dem ich die letzte Mail dieser Art bekam